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Coming soon will be a feature on Blackhawk engine conversions on the 425 airframe. Check back soon.

There is a 1983 Conquest II with Dash-10 engines on ebay at the moment. Always a great spot to watch aircraft sales. While rarely a plane will trade hands through this media, it has had some proven results. Good Luck with bidding!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-Cessna-441-Dash-10-Intent-sell-before-2011-/290512253705?pt=Motors_Aircraft&hash=item43a3e13309

One of our members has his 425 available for lease. Please contact him for more info.

2010 year to date there have been zero reported accidents in both 425 and 441 airframes with the NTSB. I learned of a new Conquest training school, Aviation Training Management (ATM) 772-778-7815. If anyone has other suggestions of 425/441 training please let us know and I'd be glad to work it into the resources page.

We had a question from a blogger "captbilly" and I passed the info around and received a good response from an experienced 441 pilot.

First I will post the questions, followed by the response.

$24.95 USD available from www.Flight1.com

I think it would be interesting to test the limits of what this cyber aircraft could do, the cockpit looks very familiar, and if the performance model is similar to actual it may be a good way to practice instrument flying and following checklists.... but if you're like me, you'll probably be trying to land and take off from spots you'd never attempt in real life. But what could it hurt to set it at max gross, shut down one engine and fly it in known icing virtually? Below are some screen shots. If you are the owner of N441HC please check in with us and let us know the story on how this came about.









GMAX Aircraft Model - The 441 Conquest II has been modeled in GMAX with exceptional detail for Flight Simulator 2004. All control surfaces are fully animated, including the cabin door and cargo compartments.

Beautiful 2D-Panel - Flight 1's 441 Conquest II's 2D-Panel uses high definition technology for unmatched clarity and detail.The unique main panel perspective gives you the feeling of being in the real cockpit. The panel and subpanels can easily be accessed with the included "Panel Manager" which allows you move around the cockpit with just a few mouse-clicks.

Clickable Virtual Cockpit - The virtual cockpit of the 441 includes exquisite detail with full working gauges, switches, and moving parts to give you the full experience of what its like to fly this beautiful aircraft.

Highly Accurate Flight Model - The 441 flight model has been carefully developed to achieve an accurate flight model with respect to both performance and feel.

Authentic Sounds by "MeatWater" - The sound package is digitally recorded from an actual 441 Conquest, and skillfully developed by MeatWater Sounds.

Configuration Manager - The 441 Conquest II also includes a separate Configuration Manager utility. Click to add/remove passengers, add cargo to the two cargo compartments, and then see if you fall within the specified weight limits to fly your aircraft.

The 441 Conquest II also includes Flight One's proprietary Text-o-Matic aircraft repainting utility. Text-o-Matic allows you to download additional user created paint schemes and install them on your system with just a couple mouse-clicks. The 441 Conquest II package also includes extensive documentation, checklists, specifications and a step-by-step tutorial to get you flying in no time.

By Chelsey Levingston, Dayton Daily News Contributing Writer 2:37 PM Thursday, April 1, 2010

More than two months after a 7.0 magnitude earthquake hit Haiti on Jan. 12, a local partnership has learned its aid efforts helped more than 2,000 Haitians.

The Connor Group, a real estate company, along with Miami Valley Hospital, Dayton Children’s Hospital and Lifeline Christian Mission of Columbus, delivered 900 pounds of medical supplies targeted to children, said Larry Connor, Connor Group managing partner.

MVH and Dayton Children’s donated medical supplies, Lifeline missionaries distributed supplies in Haiti, and Connor Group provided transportation with its co-owned corporate plane, said Connor.

The medical aid filled the plane, he said. Feedback from Lifeline confirmed the medical supplies reached some 2,000 people.

“I’m not sure we made a difference. We provided transportation to the people who make a difference,” said Connor.

“We’re just happy we had the ability to provide the transportation there and back,” he added.

Lifeline contacted The Connor Group two days after the earthquake through Wright Brothers Airport where Connor Group’s plane is based, said Brett Hunter, Connor Group chief pilot. Lifeline wanted The Conner Group to transport missionaries to Haiti.

Following two flights to get Lifeline missionaries to Haiti, a third trip was made Feb. 5 to deliver the medical supplies, said Hunter and Connor.

“I find it much more rewarding than writing a check or throwing money at people,” said Hunter, who flies a Cessna Conquest for Connor Group.

Many corporate planes were part of aid efforts, Hunter said, adding the biggest challenge was logistics because the trips took 23 hours, air and ramp spaces were full and there was no fuel in Haiti.

The plane fueled up in Provodenciales of Caicos Islands.

Connor said Mary Boosalis, MVH president and CEO was contacted about donations.

MVH donated $3,500 worth of medical supplies to treat wounds and another $1,980 worth of medication to aid victims, according to a statement.

Also two nurses, a respiratory therapist and several doctors have traveled to Haiti to care for victims after the earthquake.

Contributing these aid efforts are part of MVH’s mission as healers.

Connor Group started in Dayton and has $1.3 billion assets in six markets. Lifeline has been in Haiti for more than 25 years, according to lifeline.org.

No Accidents reported for 425's and 441's fleet wide for 2010. Now what went somewhat unadvertised was that the FAA stopped mailing owners AD's that come out on thier airplanes in March of 2010. Don't be caught surprised at your next inspection.

Most recent 441 AD is 2009-05-05 and is for Primary Flight Displays.

Most recent 425 AD is 2005-20-25 for the Circuit Breaker Switches.

Currently there are 42 Conquest I's for sale worldwide with 208 in the active fleet. There are 37 Conquest II's for sale with 313 in the active fleet.

In 2009 there were only 9 425's reported sold.

2008 saw 23 change hands.

2007 had 44 aircraft bought and sold.

For the 441 Airframe:

2009 year to date 18 aircraft sold

2008 had 41 aircraft sold

2007 was 56 aircraft bought and sold.

*Source Amstat

Turboprop Category

Bluebook-at-a-glance
Increased — 75
Decreased — 114
Stable — 399

Socata fared better in this reporting period. Sales demonstrated that values were better than previously reported; therefore, stronger values appear in the new release of Bluebook. Turboprop ag planes continue to demonstrate improved values with limited inventories available in the world market. The Piaggio was up 9 percent from the previous quarter as well.

*Source Carl Jansen, Aircraft Blue Book

So what does all this tell us to do? The DOW and NASDAQ are on the rise, U.S. gross domestic product is rising, aircraft values have neutralized at 0% change for the Conquest, there is a good ammount of airplanes on the market to choose from... In short now is a good time to buy a Conquest if you are on the fence about it. The Conquest is a unique aircraft that nothing yet can touch in terms of speed, fuel economy, and passenger payload ability. These factors will continue to have a good solid airplane continue to increase in value. Remember when sales volume peaked in 2007 there were 441 Conquests listed with prices of $2.1 million dollars. Today is a great time to buy an airplane.

For those in a hurry, these are capable of up to a 5,000 FPM rate of decent. Pricing is $7,995 and estimating installation times of 40-45 hours.  www.powerpacspoilers.com

Camp systems is developing a maintenance tracking schedule for the 441. It should be dialed in and ready this Winter. Look for more details here on conquestowners.org

At one point or another we've all had our airplanes let us down. Here's a secret for all Conquest Owners. Send your Starter-Generator out to the pro's at Niacc-Avitech. They do nothing by repair, overhaul, exchange starter genertors. Highly likely your maintenance shop already sends them here. I recently had one go out and thier customer service is very good, always helpful, and product turn around time is fast. They even do work that other repair shops send out like re-winding the armatures.

Pardeep Dabb,Customer Service Manager

(559)-291-2500 X 3230

 www.niacc-avitech.com

We had a reader write in and give his thoughts on the SID, what are yours? Feel free to post in the message board or comment here in the blog.

I have done three Conquest SID\'s to date....I have been fortunate to have clean airplanes and got off the hook for less than most! When I flew them away did I feel safer?? No....I felt the planes had been excessively torn apart and no safer(if you have seen one in the middle of the process you\'ll understand this statement)...Is it difficult to sell one in this market without the SID being done? definitely(so much misinformation)....I feel the SID gave one of the best Turbo Props out there a Giant \"Black Eye\" which will take time to heal...even in this current market it damaged the value of the aiplane heavily...after studying/listening to the whole SID program I am conviced it is not necessary FAA\'s \"Legal Interpretation\" convinced me..... The FAA InFO document (InFOmmercial..excuse the pun... after three SIDS I feel justfied to say this after wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars and months of wasted time)threw up a heavy smoke screen and after talking with Rusty Jones I felt maybe it is necessary....but after more study I kept going back to the \"Legal Interpretation\" reading the opening paragraph which at the bottom states no one can not mandate this....only the FAA and that is through the proper APA process....I look forward to seeing more owner/operator/shop opinions......

A Rare sight in America, but quite common in Europe is the Reims F406 Caravan II. Originaly designed by Cessna in co-operation with Reims of France, it was based on the 404 Titan airframe, as was the Conquest II. What makes the 406 differnt is it uses PT-6 engines instead of 331 engines. Also the 406 is non-pressurized. Where these planes became popular was short haul passenger service, cargo, and law enforcement. They were rugged and built to be working airplanes. Lack of pressurization lightened the airframe for more payload, and the addition of a belly cargo pod for increased baggage and cargo revenue. The Reims Aircraft company of France still produces this model today. It came into service on the heals of the 441 in 1983 but never matched the 441's speed, range, or fuel economy. So why did Cessna drop the 441 in 1984? I really don't have an exact answer. Economic recession, Citation Jets were the hot new Cessna product, unemployment was up around 10%, Beechcraft King Air sales were good. In a way it was Cessna bowing to Beechcrafts turboprop success, and putting a focus on Jet aircraft virtually eliminating competing turboprops from thier lineup.

Year to date sales figures for 2009....

425 had 13 sold, currently 39 for sale, average asking price $1,091,700 with 208 airplanes in the active global fleet

441 had 27 sold, currently 30 for sale, average asking price $1,377,267 with 313 airplanes in the active global fleet.

For those not familiar, the new STC improves stability and speed. One more additional innovation to an outstanding airplane. If you know of a new development in Conquest technologies please let us know by emailing moderator@conquestowners.org .

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We are pleased to announce that the amendment process of the Cessna 441 to STC 1935LA is now officially complete. Thank you for all of your patience during this process. For sales and ordering information please contact either Steve or Brent.

Aircraft Performance Modifications, Inc.

So by now you know what the SID is all about. Or rather thought you knew what the SID was all about. Amidst the questions and wondering we think according to the FAA, that Cessna cannot force this inspection as it is not an APPROVED maintenance program. What areyour thoughts? According to Yingling on thier website...

"To date Yingling Aviation has successfully completed several of the new Phase Inspections on Both 425' s and 441' s with very encouraging results to report. No problematic trends or areas of particular concern have been discovered during our inspections of the 425 or 441 models and overall the final reports are very, very good! Owners can be confident the Conquest I and Conquest II have aged very gracefully and indications that the models will continue to provide the outstanding service for many more years to come."

So there is no "smoking gun" that is causing our planes to fall out of the sky. (only one plane ever has to our knowledge)

What is your opinion about the necessity of the SID?

Do you feel that taking apart the airplane for a SID can cause problems down the road?

We will be posting any updates about the Cessna Conquest and Golden Eagle. Your comments would be appreciated.